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Post by Nuno on Jun 28, 2003 5:37:41 GMT -5
FF X was good. And I hope FFX-2 will be too... thats all...
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Post by Hiroshi on Aug 18, 2003 0:47:58 GMT -5
I believe FF10 was the worst FF ever MADE!!!!!!!! and the idea of FF10-2 really pisses me off. FF10 was nothing but a show off of GFX. there was cut sceen after cut sceen after cut sceen it got really old really fast! I beat the game once and never wanted to play again! i think in FF10 you got to play the game for prolly 4 hours the rest of the game was just cut sceens!!!!!!!!! and i dont think we can expect anymore from FF10-2. FF10-2 was only made because of GFX reasons. (and prolly cause FF10 didnt make enough money so they had to make a FF10-2) i mean they never made a sequel to any of the COOL FF games like FF7,FF 6/3,FF9, and so on i mean they had MANY YEARS TO MAKE sequels on the other FF games. BUT NO!!!!! they only reason they made a sequel to FF10 was because of the GFX and it was on a better system. I do not plan on buying FF10-2 when it comes out either.
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Post by OldSkoolRPGer on Aug 18, 2003 1:00:32 GMT -5
I would like to see the cast of FFX lined up and shot. I could not even bring myself to finish it. FFX makes me feel sorry for Square, they must be running seriously low on ideas. And even though Rikku and Yuna or hot, the horror of FFX over rides my hormones to a degree that I would rather watch 8 straight hours of educational programming, without breaks, than to play FFX or FFX-2.
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Post by The Patryn on Aug 18, 2003 1:12:45 GMT -5
1. No, FFX was not the best ever. 2. FFX-2 will probably be fairly bad. 3. Who gives a flying f**k? Wait for FFXII and watch things get better. That or take a break from the series and play a better[/] RPG like Xenosaga
PS: To answer DMC's question, rhetorical as it may be, I hated Eiko.
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Post by UltimateMaxim on Aug 18, 2003 6:15:18 GMT -5
I dont know what is more disturbing about this poll, the fact that there is an option for 'It is good whack-off material' or that three people actually voted for it. It says four now......
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Post by Forbidden on Aug 18, 2003 6:28:02 GMT -5
I've seen previews of FFX2 on TV, download a FFX2 image gallery, and saw it on a magazine. It looks amazing. It looks so, so good. The graphics, the gameplay. The music sucks, but oh well. I loved FFX, I thought it was a great game. And a sequel to that will be fantastic.
(I'm just reading the first post, so don't mind me if I post in a dead topic. K? K.)
Hiroshi: You are taking the piss outta me.
"I believe FF10 was the worst FF ever MADE!!!!!!!! and the idea of FF10-2 really pisses me off. FF10 was nothing but a show off of GFX. there was cut sceen after cut sceen after cut sceen it got really old really fast! I beat the game once and never wanted to play again! i think in FF10 you got to play the game for prolly 4 hours the rest of the game was just cut sceens!!!!!!!!! and i dont think we can expect anymore from FF10-2. FF10-2 was only made because of GFX reasons. (and prolly cause FF10 didnt make enough money so they had to make a FF10-2) i mean they never made a sequel to any of the COOL FF games like FF7,FF 6/3,FF9, and so on i mean they had MANY YEARS TO MAKE sequels on the other FF games. BUT NO!!!!! they only reason they made a sequel to FF10 was because of the GFX and it was on a better system. I do not plan on buying FF10-2 when it comes out either."
1) "I believe FF10 was the worst FF ever MADE!!!!!!!!" - Fine. That's your opinion.
2) "FF10 was nothing but a show off of GFX" - Are you just playing dumb or are you really that stupid? Do you really think Squaresoft would throw away thousands or even millions of Yens just to "show off their graphic effects?" How stupid can you be?
3) "there was cut sceen after cut sceen after cut sceen it got really old really fast!" - What the HELL are you talking about? My game was 120 hours. About 117 hours was actual gameplay. Maybe you're blind, senile, deaf or something. I can't believe you said that. You're insulting your non-existing intelligence.
4) "i think in FF10 you got to play the game for prolly 4 hours the rest of the game was just cut sceens!!!!!!!!!" - Sigh... you need to have medical help. No cut scene was more than 10 minutes. Except the ending of course, and it's always long, in every FF. All of those hours, are pure gameplay. 4 hours of gameplay? 4!? Hahaha. I'm not even going to continue this.
5) "FF10-2 was only made because of GFX reasons." - Are you just playing dumb or are you really that stupid? Do you really think Squaresoft would throw away thousands or even millions of Yens just to "show off their graphic effects?" How stupid can you be? Do you actually think Squaresoft thinks gamers only care about graphics? They're much smarter than that.
6) "(and prolly cause FF10 didnt make enough money so they had to make a FF10-2)" - Actually, FFX made millions, it became platinum in a few days. They actually made FFX2 so that success will return.
7) "i mean they never made a sequel to any of the COOL FF games like FF7,FF 6/3,FF9, and so on" - You're obviously not reading articles. They made FFX2 because they don't need to create a new graphics engine, they can just use FFX's. They can't do that in FF7, FF6 and FF9. Creating FFX2 is just an easy job that will bring them cash. But who cares? As long as it's fun.
8) "they had MANY YEARS TO MAKE sequels on the other FF games. BUT NO!!!!!" First, why "NOO!!!" ? Second, do you want them to release FF, sequel to that, release a new FF, sequel, a new FF, sequel? That would be a total waste of time, while they can make a new FF. In this case, they're making FFX2 while working on XI, and it's easy.
9) "I do not plan on buying FF10-2 when it comes out either." - Excellent. Jerks like you don't deserve to play FF.
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Post by Nuno on Aug 20, 2003 7:59:41 GMT -5
Couldn't have said better. FF X was really awsome, I enjoyed the character devolpement of Tidus and Argon. I won't get into details, the game was just awsome. Oh, by the way, just so you know, I have 250 hours of gameplay on FFX SO DON'T EVEN TRY TO SAY THAT IT IS ONLY CUTSCENES. Thanks.[/color]
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Post by UltimateMaxim on Aug 20, 2003 9:04:29 GMT -5
I would like to see the cast of FFX lined up and shot. I could not even bring myself to finish it. FFX makes me feel sorry for Square, they must be running seriously low on ideas. And even though Rikku and Yuna or hot, the horror of FFX over rides my hormones to a degree that I would rather watch 8 straight hours of educational programming, without breaks, than to play FFX or FFX-2. What about Lulu? She;s hot too! Especially when she bows down at the end of the battle and.....well ya know.
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Post by Forbidden on Aug 20, 2003 9:06:01 GMT -5
Couldn't have said better. FF X was really awsome, I enjoyed the character devolpement of Tidus and Argon. [/color][/quote] Do you mean Auron? Yeah, character developement was really good. It's just a great game.
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Post by Hiroshi on Aug 21, 2003 21:26:00 GMT -5
Well i dont care what any of you say i HATED FF10. Ohh and Zeeph-kun it took you 112 hours to beat FF10? It only took me 26 hours! i have a digital camera so if you want i can send a pic of my clear time. oh and i didnt use cheats. (what in the hell did you do that took you 112 hours? you either didnt hurry OR you just suck l o l
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Post by Forbidden on Aug 21, 2003 21:34:38 GMT -5
And please explain to me, how come being... um... "suck" makes you play more time? You didn't do any sidequest, probably didn't read the text, and basically did nothing. Not only that, you are also quite a big n00b, so you don't have the brains for games like Final Fantasy.
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Post by Lunar on Aug 21, 2003 22:54:47 GMT -5
Alright, again I guess I'm the anti-FF guy. Right now I'm not going to say anything specific about FFX-2 because I wait till I play a game to judge (and even though I don't like most FFs, I still play them like everyone else) The only thing I can say is there is a review on RPGFan if you want to check that out. What drew me to post in this thread is the comments on the FFXs characters developments; which, ironically, barely exists. Let's do a brief run through: Tidus- Here we got a hero who instead of being the badass with teh l337 sword, but one who is whiny and pretty much a crybaby. I give that part of him respect 'cause you scarcely see a main hero with that sort of personality. However, there is no character development at all. Till beginning to end, he's almost always whining about something. His one spark was (spoiler highlight) when he learned and accepted his fate as a dream of the fayth. Yuna- Here's something original, the tragic heroine who sacrifices everything to save her world. To help her, she has guardians who run around and pulling her ass out of sticky situations. Does she ever change? no. Is she cliche? yes. Lulu- Alright, she's a good looking character. What's special about her? absolutely nothing actually. She's just one of those guardians who run around guarding things. So, unlike everyone else, she doesn't accept Tidus in the beginning. Good thing, cause that's the only thing that sets her apart from any of the other guardians. Her relationship with Chapu is development? Not quite, more of a ploy to spark a 'deeper' relationship between her and Wakka. Wakka- He has an accent...what else? Oh yeah, a hatred for Al-Bhed. Without these two very minor points, guess what? He's just a guardian running around guarding things. Kimarhi (sp?) Uh-oh, the manly beast who knows how to kick ass. Uh-oh, but he's only a little Ronso. Uh-oh, he eventually fights other Ronsos to proof his worth. Uh-oh, we got another cliched character. What is he ultimately? A guardian...you know the rest. Rikku- Alright, it's impossible not to fall in love with this girl, I'll give you that. Cheerful, cute (well, for a computer girl ) and optimistic. Yeah, I could not imagine FFX without Rikku, but really she also has no character development. So, she is added to the list of Guardians. At least she can put on an entertaining strip show Seymour-Oh, my, god. He is the reason I hate 90% of FF villians. If you played the game you know his past, but why did he do it? TO GET TEH POWER!!!! That is the most cliche villain motive ever, maybe second to the 'awakened monster of the past' cliche. Auron- Well I decided to save the best for last, 'cause he probabaly is the best character in FFX. A Guardian, mind you, but at least he is one who has an intresting past worth listening about. So we got the tragic hero and (should be) heroine, a guardian, a guardian, a guardian, OMG a guardian, and a villain who wants TEH POWER! Not a very diverse class, but maybe someone can convince me why FFX has good character development. And I really hope FFX-2 has a good reason for Yuna's new style...
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Post by Hiroshi on Aug 22, 2003 2:45:20 GMT -5
Zeephos just cause im a n00b doesnt mean i havent played games! (and you dont have to have brains to play FF-10 it basicly did everything for you)also I have been playing RPG sence Iwas 8!!! you need to think before you speak . you're just pissed cause you know FF 10 sucked. i have played every Final Fantasy that is out in the U.S too JUST SO YOU KNOW!!!!!!!!. (that includes the Super Nintendo FF'S too.) btw im 16 years old now. (I have over 230 video Ps1/Ps2 games too. .ohh and one more thing JUST because im a n00b here doesnt mean im a n00b everywhere so SHUT THE f**k UP!!!!!!! now to move on. Final Fantasy 10 just wasnt any fun to me. It had way to many cut-sceens (not something im into) i prefer to play my games not watch them. the story was pretty pathetic. and the story had more to do with Yuna than it did Tidus, I mean if they would have taken out Tidus....i dont think it would have made much difference... I didnt like the voice overs too much either. The voice overs were perfect at times (more than half the game) but there were some parts that the voices...well sucked....and i LOVED all the characters too. (heh Rikku was my fave) but i didnt think most of the characters had a very big role in the game.....like Wakka.....ummm........well.....his part...was really tiny... same for Rikku (i dont think she really had a part becides being a guardian.) and the ending was REALLY BAD...through out the whole game you were hoping for a great ending.....and then......you got this nutsty VERY nutsty ending.....i was hoping for something a LOT better than that.......the battle system was Great as well...tho at times it lagged really bad (mainly only when you summoned with Yuna) I really loved how summons worked too. but all you Heros had to leave that kinda sucked......only because if they didnt hit anything Yuna got all the EXP. Then the sphere grid wasnt a bad idea...but it was a pain having to go in there after every fight to mess with your stats.
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Post by OldSkoolRPGer on Aug 22, 2003 23:43:04 GMT -5
UM, yeah Lulu was hot...in a weird way, and she was a motivation to play the game(Like the Rikku Scene), for a little while, but there is no character developement. When I play an FF I expect to launched into it's world, and see and feel the trials and the hardships they face, I couldn't feel that anymore when I played for a few hours, so I kept playing, and the more I played, the more I lost touch with the characters, until they became nothing more to me that a group of pixels. I can honestly say that, I was deeply saddened by FFX, and all I can do about it is wait for FFXII to come out.
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Post by Gimdin7 on Aug 23, 2003 16:31:42 GMT -5
You guys must not have Understood FFX at all. It doesn't come as a surprise really, as I'm betting you are FF7 zealots. Oh well.
*SPOILERS AHEAD*
Seymour is a really misunderstood character. His motives were actually pretty intriguing. Seymour thinks he is being a hero: He doesn't want power like Lunar said. Not in the since to take over the world. Seymour wishes become Sin to kill all the people of Spira in order to free them from the pains of Sin, and so no one can send them. That way the dead would just linger on in the world. They would never have to feel pain again. Thats what makes Seymour so interesting. He doesn't think he is a villain, and his argument almost makes sense, save for the fact that he's completly insane.
I'll admit Tidus was whiney (no worse than Cloud though), but as Lunar said, his weaknesess breaks from the angsty mainstay of most FF male leads. One may view him as not developing much, but thats because he is a dream. Hes just so in order to maintain the dream. Thats my story anyway.
Yuna has alot on her shoulders. We usually don't see a heroine with the wieght of the world on her shoulders. Its usually the male. Yuna seems delicate but easily has the strongest will in the game. Sure her character type is a bit contrived, but it works. I wouldn't want to play a game where there was no big conflict. There are a finite amount of basic plots out there. At least this one had enough spin on it to make it intriguing. Plus I dig the whole star crossed lovers thing. I admit I'm a sap.
Lulu is pretty cool. Shes actually a very complex character. Along with Wakka, she tried to prevent Yuna from ever becoming a Summoner. But when she did, Lulu committed herself wholey. Not only that, but shes in love with her dead boyfriends brother. She tries her best to remain stoic, and not let on.
Wakkas in the same boat as Lulu. What I love about Wakka though, is that hes so devout to his religion all common sense evades him. For me that was comedy relief. Wakkas lines bring forth some interesting social commentary.
Kimarhi.... okay, so he you got me there. Hes the strong silent type, who under it all is a soft cuddly teddy bear. Hes known Yuna the longest though, so hes kinda like a father to her. The way they play off each other can be touching at times.... that is when he actually speaks.
Rikku... like Lunar said, just a fun gal. She brings alot of color to the game, and best of all challenges Wakka's ideals. Fun for the whole family
Auron. Badass. 'nuff said.
***FFX-2 SPOILERS***
As for Yunas new style..... I read that in X-2 she is crazy popular and everyone keeps bothering her. But in order to do her quest she needs a different outfit. Enter Rikku who makes her one, with CG-sexy results. Makes sense to me.
***END SPOILERS***
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