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Post by Mr. Fangora (Wum) on Oct 29, 2003 7:32:49 GMT -5
My theory on the hooded man is that it is Edda Roshgarde however this theory has many holes in it. First of all, physically he does look like a valid father for Kima and Eijin (Mostly Eijin) because of the reddish hair. Also the fact he never had a portrait in the game is a possible reason. Now in terms of in the game, Edda might not neccasarily be dead. He was assumed dead before and was living, it could happen again, right? I think that Kima slaying the yeti merely released him from his curse but didn't end his life. I've no idea how this would work though, it's just an idea. (I also found the scene involving Edda's death kinda anti-climatic ) This could also explain the scar in his face. Slash marks perhaps? Somehow regaining his original Edda decided to resume his quest to unite the country. This may still be his goal, although now he must unite the people of the world since it is now ravaged and the people are basically all screwed. That would explain him saying "Or perhaps my true quest has just begun" Also concerning Kima and Avalon's fall. Maybe there were survivors (however doubtful) from the crash. Kima may have survived but hit his head or something like that. In his unstable state he may learn of his father's whereabouts and seek revenge for his childhood. Edda may find death at his son's hands yet... Anyway that's my 2 cents (more like 10), just thought I'd share my thoughts and prove I have to much spare time to be thinking about stuff like this.
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Post by Busterman Zero on Oct 29, 2003 10:10:38 GMT -5
My theory on the hooded man is that it is Edda Roshgarde however this theory has many holes in it. First of all, physically he does look like a valid father for Kima and Eijin (Mostly Eijin) because of the reddish hair. Also the fact he never had a portrait in the game is a possible reason. Now in terms of in the game, Edda might not neccasarily be dead. He was assumed dead before and was living, it could happen again, right? I think that Kima slaying the yeti merely released him from his curse but didn't end his life. I've no idea how this would work though, it's just an idea. (I also found the scene involving Edda's death kinda anti-climatic ) This could also explain the scar in his face. Slash marks perhaps? Somehow regaining his original Edda decided to resume his quest to unite the country. This may still be his goal, although now he must unite the people of the world since it is now ravaged and the people are basically all screwed. That would explain him saying "Or perhaps my true quest has just begun" Also concerning Kima and Avalon's fall. Maybe there were survivors (however doubtful) from the crash. Kima may have survived but hit his head or something like that. In his unstable state he may learn of his father's whereabouts and seek revenge for his childhood. Edda may find death at his son's hands yet... Anyway that's my 2 cents (more like 10), just thought I'd share my thoughts and prove I have to much spare time to be thinking about stuff like this. Actually, the hair makes sense, as the hooded man has orange-red hair, and Kima and Eijin have blonde an red (his mom too, don't forget). If we run down the possibilites, red is dominant over blonde, and both the the mom and dad have recessive blonde genes that got together, that would explain Kima, as well as Eijin, as he probably has a recessive blonde gene as well as his redhead gene.
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Post by The~Inquisitor on Oct 29, 2003 10:57:47 GMT -5
So what your saying is Kima fell something like 150ft (I'd say it's probably higher seems the avalon never cast a shadow on the world to my knowledge) and managed to survive? What a guy!
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Post by Final Knight on Oct 29, 2003 11:46:37 GMT -5
So what your saying is Kima fell something like 150ft (I'd say it's probably higher seems the avalon never cast a shadow on the world to my knowledge) and managed to survive?!?!?! What a guy! What? Kima didn't fall alone, he fell with avalon.
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Post by The~Inquisitor on Oct 29, 2003 11:58:27 GMT -5
So he fell and got crushed by a load of stone and STILL survived? (There was an entire fortress above him) That's even more amazing than what Niklas said.
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Post by Final Knight on Oct 29, 2003 16:06:20 GMT -5
So he fell and got crushed by a load of stone and STILL survived? (There was an entire fortress above him) That's even more amazing than what Niklas said. What? I didn't say that at all...He wasn't crushed by it! I'm not quite sure what the exact details are but Kima didn't get crushed by avalon or jump down from avalon, ok?
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Post by The~Inquisitor on Oct 29, 2003 17:43:33 GMT -5
So, what you are saying is: The avalon fell from the sky with Kima on it. However, when it hit the ground and almost certainly crumbled to pieces when it comes in contact with the ground, Kima avoids all the odds and survives with a mere bump on his head. I mean when the Avalon hit, surely is would fall apart and crumble crushing pretty much ALL the legionnaires. If some didn't die as a result of being crushed or falling off the Avalon (Which would be VERY unlikely), they would then be killed as a result of breathing in the load of dust from the crash. Kima would have to be one flukey git to be able to survive all of that.
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Post by SickAndWretched on Oct 29, 2003 17:59:22 GMT -5
hmm.. I don't see why he wouldn't survive..
Note the sarcasm
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Post by Final Knight on Oct 29, 2003 19:19:59 GMT -5
So, what you are saying is: The avalon fell from the sky with Kima on it. However, when it hit the ground and almost certainly crumbled to pieces when it comes in contact with the ground, Kima avoids all the odds and survives with a mere bump on his head. I mean when the Avalon hit, surely is would fall apart and crumble crushing pretty much ALL the legionnaires. If some didn't die as a result of being crushed or falling off the Avalon (Which would be VERY unlikely), they would then be killed as a result of breathing in the load of dust from the crash. Kima would have to be one flukey git to be able to survive all of that. Wait weren't you chibi goku? Oh well. To clear this up, what I first tried to state was that Kima didn't jump off Avalon to my knowledge. I don't know how or if he survived the explosion of a crashing city from the sky and I wasn't trying to back up the idea that Kima was the hooded man, but I haven't played ls3 for months so I can't say this is all exactly true but it wouldn't make sense that he would jump off because that would be impossible to survive. And totally off topic I also wanted to praise you on those excellent screenshots of the cities.
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Post by devilmaycare150 on Oct 29, 2003 19:44:10 GMT -5
..You have to remember, the hooded only appears in the ending in which Avalon is destroyed and doesn't make it to the ground. However, this only makes the chances of Kima surviving worse; Avalon decimated so badly that all that was left of it was ash, I'm sure the blast would've easily killed Kima.
But concerning Edda, that's quite a good point. Although it hits a stumbling block with..Kima killing him and all. You might still be right though..it intrigues me..
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Post by Busterman Zero on Oct 29, 2003 20:11:51 GMT -5
Okay, unless Kima is the most amazing guy since Nikolai Tesla, he's dead, vaporized into that snow stuff that fell.
Now, Edda was left on the ground, supposedly dead, but was he really? Of course, Of course, his stomach was pretty much cut open, and slash attacks, as I am a student of the great art of Kendo, would be a garunteed drawn-out kill, where as stabbing kills instantly, but a miss gives high probability for survival, like getting shot. Slashing can make you bleed to death in a matter of minutes.
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Post by pyschobunnyterminator on Oct 29, 2003 23:14:33 GMT -5
Where did you get this edda turning into a yeti thing? ....can anyone tell me with spoliers...i completed the whole game, but its been a long time since, so anyone revive me on this. ;D Anyhow, doubtfully eijin or that guy that barbartta and igou was talking about because he was with them in the century of strife. Edda?....maybe...
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Post by Busterman Zero on Oct 30, 2003 0:13:43 GMT -5
Where did you get this edda turning into a yeti thing? ....can anyone tell me with spoliers...i completed the whole game, but its been a long time since, so anyone revive me on this. ;D Anyhow, doubtfully eijin or that guy that barbartta and igou was talking about because he was with them in the century of strife. Edda?....maybe... Hey, Eijin had a better chance of surviving than Kima, and the other guy could have the life span of an Orogai like that Liu Yaio emperor. *SPOILER* That Yeti that Kima fights with Letira while visiting Edda's grave at teh end of Chapter 2? Ring any bells? The Yeti was Edda, cursed to become a monster and be killed by his son. Letira didn't reveal this until after Kima finished him off, but there was a small chance he wasn't quite dead. *END SPOILER*
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Post by pyschobunnyterminator on Oct 30, 2003 0:23:48 GMT -5
once his yeti form died or something, maybe he turned back to his human form, which then he had no cholthing on, and thieved off some guy's cloak, and came to the edge, near that city i cannot remember, anyhow, then he maybe had a true quest, to find his son, i think. Even so Kima is now a king of Higuasu, or whatever. ...anyone understand?, or is it just my blahing. Hope you look into it. Edda could be another legion master maybe..... (means i'm kidding)
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Post by Final Knight on Oct 30, 2003 8:04:59 GMT -5
Ok you are going a little far with Edda being the next legion master but you are basically saying what everyone else has been trying to say: Edda could be the hooded man.
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