Mr. E
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Post by Mr. E on Sept 18, 2003 19:17:11 GMT -5
Well, I have an idea for a fangame. Please rate it.
Here's the basic storyline:
It takes place 5 years after LS3.
You start out in Mikara City, Capital of Harbrynd. Zeike, general of the Harbrynd Army, is trying to fight off a bunch of bandits from the Ageless Desert. His army succeeds, but Zeike is killed. At that exact moment, Lewis, son of Zeike, woke up from a terrible nightmare. ^_^
Later that day, Lewis and his mother and sister, Kyra, here the news that Zeike had died. The next day, the same bandits that attacked Mikara started attacking Ryandorf, where Lewis lived. Luckily, Zeike had trained Lewis with a sword. Lewis and many other men fought them off. They were forced to retreat. Unfortunatly, Kyra was captured during the battle, and you have to find her.
That's the begining, it gets better, but if I told you the rest it would spoil it for you.
It's an action RPG, that's for sure. Action RPG's are way better than other RPG's.
What do you think? (haven't gotten permission from Kamau, so don't get your hopes up. )
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Post by SickAndWretched on Sept 18, 2003 19:42:15 GMT -5
its sounds ok.. I guess..
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Hanzatre the Hippie
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Some with for Justice.Some fight for Law.Tell me.What do you fight for?
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Post by Hanzatre the Hippie on Sept 18, 2003 22:40:29 GMT -5
Sounds good I think
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Post by Busterman Zero on Sept 19, 2003 0:41:06 GMT -5
The after LS3 concept makes me shake my head. I'm pretty sure Kamau, unless given special permission, doesn't want fan games to take place after LS3.
Also, this burns my Harbrynd ideas.
Another general-related person? How about someone not important for once? I would of done it but the characters and plot wouln't of been as intresting. This is still in the idea stages.
Again, the sword was just a convient plot device. Give him a spear or something.
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Post by The~Inquisitor on Sept 19, 2003 12:47:45 GMT -5
Why are the bandits trying to capture civilians? I thought they'd be after money. Big armies are not going to pay for the return of people not in the royal family.
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Mr. E
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Post by Mr. E on Sept 19, 2003 16:45:09 GMT -5
I never said they were trying to capture civilians. Good point... Maybe Zeike could just be a soldier or something... And sorry for stealing Harbrynd, but it's the only open country... Besides, they're just fangames, it's not like it's official info on Harbrynd.
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Ultrablade
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Post by Ultrablade on Sept 19, 2003 17:01:41 GMT -5
I never said they were trying to capture civilians. Good point... Maybe Zeike could just be a soldier or something... And sorry for stealing Harbrynd, but it's the only open country... Besides, they're just fangames, it's not like it's official info on Harbrynd. s'okay... (The Idea)
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Post by The~Inquisitor on Sept 19, 2003 17:29:42 GMT -5
Having a young solider in the army for the main character has been done to death. Think of something slightly more original like a Hotdog Vendor or a woman. Original protagonists are not particularly difficult to invent. Take a look at the commercial RPGs - always some sort of young (16-19 year old) soldier, whom often is labelled a traitor. Otherwise they're just a simple farmer who takes a walk one day, finds a magic sword in the forbidden forest, comes home to find his village has been razed and his family dead. In cases like these I think that the farm boy should get slaughter by a vagrant who has some background in swordplay - steals the sword and becomes our hero. Really, why? Ok, so the soldier has a good reason for being able to fight so well, except that he's nearly always level 1, or close to, when he starts his adventure. What sort of sissy army is this? I'm surprised they haven't been invaded and plundered by a bunch of farm-boys with enchanced swords by now. Anyway, he's 16, he's not going to be the leader of the army - why get involved, he's only cannon fodder anyway. So, let's face it, we have no real reason to make the protagonist a warrior since every hero starts out as weak as a slime. Sure, he'll have a predisposition to fight, but that's it. So now we have that out of the way, why don't we look at what the hero could actually be? Well, forgive me if I'm jumping the gun, but couldn't a woman be the hero? I know that sounds like crazy new-aged thinking, but it makes a change, right? Who else could be possible? How about a politician? They actually have a part in the government and would be an important person. They're like a general except it's reasonable to make a politician lvl 1. On a different point you could complete scrap that story (don't worry, you aren't losing anything worth caring about) and go for a different angle. Since it is set after Legion Saga, why not have the protagonist as a demon that wasn't killed during the war in LS3? This is of course contrary to the whole start-as-a-weakling thing, but at least he's not a soldier that's just finished puberty. I honestly don't think you really put any effort into thinking up a story line, else you wouldn't have come up with the exact same storyline that has been seen in RPGs since the dawn of time. Here's a little plot twist for ya - How about Lewis and Kyra get together? No-one expects incest!
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Mr. E
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Post by Mr. E on Sept 19, 2003 17:39:52 GMT -5
Having a young solider in the army for the main character has been done to death. Think of something slightly more original like a Hotdog Vendor or a woman. Original protagonists are not particularly difficult to invent. Take a look at the commercial RPGs - always some sort of young (16-19 year old) soldier, whom often is labelled a traitor. Otherwise they're just a simple farmer who takes a walk one day, finds a magic sword in the forbidden forest, comes home to find his village has been razed and his family dead. In cases like these I think that the farm boy should get slaughter by a vagrant who has some background in swordplay - steals the sword and becomes our hero. Really, why? Ok, so the soldier has a good reason for being able to fight so well, except that he's nearly always level 1, or close to, when he starts his adventure. What sort of sissy army is this? I'm surprised they haven't been invaded and plundered by a bunch of farm-boys with enchanced swords by now. Anyway, he's 16, he's not going to be the leader of the army - why get involved, he's only cannon fodder anyway. So, let's face it, we have no real reason to make the protagonist a warrior since every hero starts out as weak as a slime. Sure, he'll have a predisposition to fight, but that's it. So now we have that out of the way, why don't we look at what the hero could actually be? Well, forgive me if I'm jumping the gun, but couldn't a woman be the hero? I know that sounds like crazy new-aged thinking, but it makes a change, right? Who else could be possible? How about a politician? They actually have a part in the government and would be an important person. They're like a general except it's reasonable to make a politician lvl 1. On a different point you could complete scrap that story (don't worry, you aren't losing anything worth caring about) and go for a different angle. Since it is set after Legion Saga, why not have the protagonist as a demon that wasn't killed during the war in LS3? This is of course contrary to the whole start-as-a-weakling thing, but at least he's not a soldier that's just finished puberty. I honestly don't think you really put any effort into thinking up a story line, else you wouldn't have come up with the exact same storyline that has been seen in RPGs since the dawn of time. Here's a little plot twist for ya - How about Lewis and Kyra get together? No-one expects incest! .... First of all, I don't plan to make Lewis the leader of an army. And Lewis isn't the one in the army. Zeike, Lewis's father is the soldier. Zeike trained Lewis with a sword. And he's not going to be considered a traitor. He's going to be at level 5 - 7 when you start. Another thing that makes it different: it is going to have an ABS. Almost no commercial game has an ABS. The game actually is going to be quite original.
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Post by The~Inquisitor on Sept 19, 2003 18:06:39 GMT -5
First of all, I don't plan to make Lewis the leader of an army. And Lewis isn't the one in the army. Zeike, Lewis's father is the soldier. Zeike trained Lewis with a sword Farmer boy with a sword again, eh? Almost no commercial game has an ABS. Actually, I think you mean most RPGs don't have ABSs. Even so, there are plenty from the SNES era at least - All the zeldas, secret of mana series, secret of evermore, terranigma, Lord of the Rings (SNES version). Todays RPGs are Final Fantasies and its clones. I'd say that action battle systems account for around 1/3 of all RPGs, a small percentage have a tactical battle system, etc. I'm guess that this will be for RM2k, not 2003. Since there are so few input keys for RM2k, a decent ABS is not easy, they tend to get very dull very quick. This is not to say that you shouldn't have a CBS of any sort. On RM2k I believe that it's best to go for a turn-based battle system. Finally, I don't think you're capable of making a decent ABS - you're new to this forum and don't seem very experienced. Stick with something achievable. The game actually is going to be quite original. From what you've posted so far I have no inclination to believe this. I've noticed that the "Yeah it ROCKS!" choice on your poll has gone up to 2 since I last posted only a few minutes ago - you voted "Yeah it ROCKS!" on your own poll didn't you? How about you make a new account and vote again? Better yet, use your Superdude account!
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Post by Busterman Zero on Sept 19, 2003 18:13:36 GMT -5
Inq, it was probably some other guy who voted. And Superdude was Ultra's, remember?
Indeed, it needs a huge amount of work to be original. I'm trying to be original in my works for my game, but the originality, ingoring the whole fan game thing, is about 2%.
ABS is also becoming more common for RM2k and 2k3 as well, but not a lot of full ABS games have been made yet.
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Post by Final Knight on Sept 19, 2003 18:16:23 GMT -5
Original protagonists are not particularly difficult to invent. Take a look at the commercial RPGs - always some sort of young (16-19 year old) soldier, whom often is labelled a traitor. Otherwise they're just a simple farmer who takes a walk one day, finds a magic sword in the forbidden forest, comes home to find his village has been razed and his family dead. In cases like these I think that the farm boy should get slaughter by a vagrant who has some background in swordplay - steals the sword and becomes our hero. Hey inq do u mind if i take that idea! And by the way Mr. E....your idea....uhh...just wait till BMZ's game is done if you are going to set it in Harbrynd
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Post by Busterman Zero on Sept 19, 2003 18:29:52 GMT -5
Hey inq do u mind if i take that idea! Everyone will throw stones at you if you do.
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Post by Final Knight on Sept 19, 2003 18:38:52 GMT -5
Everyone will throw stones at you if you do. It was a joke...simmer down BMZ
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Mr. E
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Post by Mr. E on Sept 19, 2003 19:30:35 GMT -5
So maybe it doesn't sound original, but once you play the game, you'll see. YOU'LL ALL SEE!!
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