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Post by The Jacket on Jun 26, 2004 12:55:38 GMT -5
You do realize you just asked for more red tape, right? But enough of canadian politics, I doubt anyone cares. Argh. So tempting.
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Post by BAK on Jun 26, 2004 14:12:46 GMT -5
that topic just old.
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Post by The Omen on Jun 26, 2004 14:37:17 GMT -5
Benos, you -- argh screw it I'm not even gonna try.
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Post by TranceRolin on Jun 26, 2004 23:48:16 GMT -5
I'm just wierd. I'm all for the utopian Marxist ideas, but in a world where there are other nations, you need to have relations with and defense against those nations so a true Marxist utopia cannot exist- And I know this, but I have ideas for a government form that could very well give practically all of Marxism to the people while giving incentive to work harder, centralization, anticorruption policies, and working international policies to allow for cultural diffusion while maintaining order in the society.
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I give this crap too much thought. >_<
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Post by The Omen on Jun 27, 2004 0:15:49 GMT -5
I'm just wierd. I'm all for the utopian Marxist ideas, but in a world where there are other nations, you need to have relations with and defense against those nations so a true Marxist utopia cannot exist- And I know this, but I have ideas for a government form that could very well give practically all of Marxism to the people while giving incentive to work harder, centralization, anticorruption policies, and working international policies to allow for cultural diffusion while maintaining order in the society. ... I give this crap too much thought. >_< ARE YOU DRUNK?
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Post by TranceRolin on Jun 27, 2004 1:05:42 GMT -5
No . . . I'm quite serious. Those are my beliefs- I wish that everyone would work together peacefully, that we don't need something looming over us controlling us and doing things for us. I wish for that very utopian society. Usually my house is a hellhole- But I tried an experiment. I went out of my way and made my mother breakfast, did my chores, did a favor for my brother, and recorded a Yankees game for my dad- Once I did that, everyone started doing things for each other. My mother got treats for everyone and actually helped with dinner, my brother did his chores and went out to get something for himself and ended up bringing back something for everyone, and my dad gave me permission to run a server on our cable line and started helping me search for a motherboard.
My parents didn't smoke, my brother didn't drink, noone was unhappy, and life seemed . . . Good. By the end of the day we weren't going out of our ways for each other, we wanted it that way. And we have practically no contact in the morning but what was there was good- My brother and mother were home all day but I had to go in to find out what classes I failed and return textbooks the next day, but my mother later went to work, my dad was at work all day, and my brother went and hung out with friends. When everyone was back at the end of the day, things returned to normal- Everyone was cranky, my parents were smoking, my brother was drinking cursing and playing video games, and I was left to wonder, use my computer, work on my server, and listen to music in the sanctuary of my room.
I effectively produced a few hours of that dream that I look for- And I liked it. Everyone else in my house liked it. We have to push ourselves for the first act, but as soon as that happens, we find that others can push themselves for that first act. And once the first act is done, noone needs to push, because everyone is happy. =/
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Post by The Omen on Jun 27, 2004 1:27:03 GMT -5
No . . . I'm quite serious. Those are my beliefs- I wish that everyone would work together peacefully, that we don't need something looming over us controlling us and doing things for us. I wish for that very utopian society. Usually my house is a hellhole- But I tried an experiment. I went out of my way and made my mother breakfast, did my chores, did a favor for my brother, and recorded a Yankees game for my dad- Once I did that, everyone started doing things for each other. My mother got treats for everyone and actually helped with dinner, my brother did his chores and went out to get something for himself and ended up bringing back something for everyone, and my dad gave me permission to run a server on our cable line and started helping me search for a motherboard. My parents didn't smoke, my brother didn't drink, noone was unhappy, and life seemed . . . Good. By the end of the day we weren't going out of our ways for each other, we wanted it that way. And we have practically no contact in the morning but what was there was good- My brother and mother were home all day but I had to go in to find out what classes I failed and return textbooks the next day, but my mother later went to work, my dad was at work all day, and my brother went and hung out with friends. When everyone was back at the end of the day, things returned to normal- Everyone was cranky, my parents were smoking, my brother was drinking cursing and playing video games, and I was left to wonder, use my computer, work on my server, and listen to music in the sanctuary of my room. I effectively produced a few hours of that dream that I look for- And I liked it. Everyone else in my house liked it. We have to push ourselves for the first act, but as soon as that happens, we find that others can push themselves for that first act. And once the first act is done, noone needs to push, because everyone is happy. =/ That was... awesome...
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Post by The Omen on Jun 27, 2004 1:31:09 GMT -5
i'm even going to say it even you know what to do with this, but what the heck "OSTEN". ...He's unbelievable. >________< This isn't funny anymore, benos.
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Post by The Patryn on Jun 27, 2004 2:02:48 GMT -5
i'm even going to say it even you know what to do with this, but what the heck "OSTEN".
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Post by Shiguru Wazzat on Jun 27, 2004 13:55:47 GMT -5
No . . . I'm quite serious. Those are my beliefs- I wish that everyone would work together peacefully, that we don't need something looming over us controlling us and doing things for us. I wish for that very utopian society. Usually my house is a hellhole- But I tried an experiment. I went out of my way and made my mother breakfast, did my chores, did a favor for my brother, and recorded a Yankees game for my dad- Once I did that, everyone started doing things for each other. My mother got treats for everyone and actually helped with dinner, my brother did his chores and went out to get something for himself and ended up bringing back something for everyone, and my dad gave me permission to run a server on our cable line and started helping me search for a motherboard. My parents didn't smoke, my brother didn't drink, noone was unhappy, and life seemed . . . Good. By the end of the day we weren't going out of our ways for each other, we wanted it that way. And we have practically no contact in the morning but what was there was good- My brother and mother were home all day but I had to go in to find out what classes I failed and return textbooks the next day, but my mother later went to work, my dad was at work all day, and my brother went and hung out with friends. When everyone was back at the end of the day, things returned to normal- Everyone was cranky, my parents were smoking, my brother was drinking cursing and playing video games, and I was left to wonder, use my computer, work on my server, and listen to music in the sanctuary of my room. I effectively produced a few hours of that dream that I look for- And I liked it. Everyone else in my house liked it. We have to push ourselves for the first act, but as soon as that happens, we find that others can push themselves for that first act. And once the first act is done, noone needs to push, because everyone is happy. =/ BMZ said it all... that was awesome. Communism, in theory this is a great idea, but some people just execute it wrongly, which completely ruins the whole point of communism. If it worked well - everyone had the same amount of money, but they weren't poor - then Russia would probably have been the greatest nation on the planet. But because it didn't work out, the European countries where afraid of it spreading to their countries, and all this lead to the Berlin Wall, and so on. Although it does only take one person to take the first step, it takes a lot more people to carry it on.
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Post by TranceRolin on Jun 27, 2004 18:05:55 GMT -5
I find that Socialism is the flaw in the conversion to Communism. It relies on the principality of a benevolent dictator. I particularly enjoyed Lenin's "War Communism" because it was communism at its core, but it had commercialistic aspects to encourage working- Benefits for those who work harder, and some other stuff. Lenin was a truly great man, in my opinion- A great speaker, a great leader, and a man with great ambition for a better future, though I think the secret police was going over the edge >_> Though they didn't kill the 18 million that Stalin did, it was a bad idea to begin with.
Ever seen "Meeting on the Elbe"? There's another stupid policy- Making enemies through propaganda. Also, if you see I think it was Rocky IV where they fight the Russians.
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Post by The Omen on Jun 27, 2004 18:39:32 GMT -5
BMZ said it all... that was awesome. I said that. Not BMZ.
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Post by TranceRolin on Jun 27, 2004 20:09:31 GMT -5
I noticed, too. if (Omen == BMZ) { World.endNow(2004); }
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Post by BAK on Jun 27, 2004 22:37:59 GMT -5
i'm with stupid.
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Post by The Patryn on Jun 27, 2004 23:21:19 GMT -5
You are stupid. Time for at least a temp ban maybe? >_>
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