timrpgland
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Post by timrpgland on May 14, 2004 10:45:43 GMT -5
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Post by The Jacket on May 15, 2004 21:25:29 GMT -5
x eleventy billion I like the setting for the game. I'd love to be the one picking the music for this game.
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NeonShadow
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Post by NeonShadow on May 16, 2004 5:21:40 GMT -5
oh god no.. Not a nother one..!
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Zheil
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Post by Zheil on May 16, 2004 10:55:47 GMT -5
Oh God yes!... Another one!
Surprisingly, the graphics have actually updated from Vice City (Unlike how VC was to GTA3).
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Post by The Jacket on May 16, 2004 14:00:33 GMT -5
oh god no.. Not a nother one..! I think we'll be pleasantly suprised. I was worried that it would just be another GTA with more cars and guns, but I think this one will be good. You'll actually be playing in the spot that was the center of the crack-war hurricane during that period.
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NeonShadow
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Post by NeonShadow on May 16, 2004 14:25:21 GMT -5
I think we'll be pleasantly suprised. I was worried that it would just be another GTA with more cars and guns, but I think this one will be good. You'll actually be playing in the spot that was the center of the crack-war hurricane during that period. I can only hope.. GTA: Vice city was just a cheap version of GTA 3 that it almoust made me hate the whole series
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timrpgland
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Post by timrpgland on May 17, 2004 12:43:30 GMT -5
Every GTA game has been great and has had alot of replay value. The people who bash it either get sick of it or just don't do all the actual stuff. Just messing around isn't what it's all about.
GTA3 and Vice City have been my favorites by far. GTA2 was really impressive but then the leap to 3D was great. GTA3 and Vice City both have unique feels and Vice City has plenty of extra stuff. Just the motorcycles add oodles of gameplay and fun. The graphics didn't really improve but the game itself isn't just some cheap rehash. It's a solid title. It wasn't called GTA4 remember? The same quality was expected. GTA3 had hills and alot more up and down terrain which I liked. Florida is a bit too flat.
San Andreas should be awesome and I love the setting. Being as the GTA games are the most successful PS2 games, I expect the same from this one. Only 4 months to go as well. Rockstar won't disappoint. They may put out mediocre titles in between but once it's time for a new GTA, it's golden.
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Post by Shiguru Wazzat on May 20, 2004 15:39:15 GMT -5
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Game Informer: Plot Summary
This is the world that San Andreas' main character, Carl Johnson, finds himself coming back to after spending five years in Liberty City. Johnson left his neighborhood in the ghetto of Los Santos after the death of his brother Brian, who died in a tragic accident. Carl's older brother Sweet Johnson blamed him for Brian's death, leading to a period of estrangement that is broken by the sudden passing of his mother.
On returning home for the funeral, Carl finds his biological family and his former gang, the Orange Grove Families, in disarray. Sweet and his sister Kendall are at each other's throats. His former crew - Sweet, longtime family friend Smoke, and Ryder - have falled from power on the streets, and are now besieged by both rival gang factions and internal quarrels.
Although Carl is reluctant to get dragged back into the street life, fate intervents when his crew comes under the thumbs of Frank Tenpenr and Eddie Polaski, who are characterized as a "heavy-duty pair of lunatic corrupt policemen on your case." As always, events soon spiral out of control, and Johnson finds himself on a frantic adventure that will take him across the state of San Andreas as he fights to preserve his family, his gang, and his life.
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Game Informer: Synopsis
San Andreas is not a city - it’s a state. The game will take place in three cities: Los Angeles, San Francisco, Las Vegas, and the countryside in between. Los Angeles will be called Los Santos, San Francisco will be called San Fierro, and Las Vegas will be called Las Venturra. Each city is relatively the same size as Vice City, and will be fully open to the player at different points in the story arc. The entire game is approximately four to six times as large as either GTA III or Vice City.
You will be able to travel between cities on roads that reach through a vast countryside, and the countryside has its own unique characters and gameplay sequences. Each city will have a much more diverse set of experiences for the player and will emphasize a different aspect of San Andreas’ gameplay. San Fierro has plenty of hills and thus is more focused on driving. Specialty vehicles can be unlocked to bring new fun to the environment of the cities.
The countryside will expand on the GTA experience where cities could not. For example, there will be a mountain that you can drive up. You will be able to drive from Los Santos through the countryside, up a mountain into San Fierro, and continue on to Las Venturra to give depth to the game and make it feel completely real.
Because of some new streaming and rendering that Rockstar designed themselves, San Andreas will feature environments that are both more intricate and more interactive than Vice City. Vice City had a bigger map than GTA III, but not everything was as dense and interesting as it could have been. In San Andreas, the entire map is crisper and has a lot more things going on. Even the desert will feel vibrant and alive.
The graphics engine has been overhauled and now has new techniques like radial lighting which gives more realistic shadowing. The engine also includes real-time reflections on cars, windows, and mirrors, and soft-shadow lighting for interior levels. Everything in the game now has independent models for day and nighttime, so the objects can look as detailed and vivid during night as they do during the day. San Andreas will feature "impact animation," or rag-doll physics.
San Andreas will push the limits on interiors. While Vice City introduced the idea of interiors, most of them were nothing but detailed save points. In SA however, tons of interiors have been fully rendered out and made more interactive, for example robbing houses.
Rockstar has pushed themselves to create a vast interactive world. San Andreas will have scores of unique interiors, dozens of restaurants, and a fully operational casino. While many of these would have been mere novelties in the past, they now directly affect your characters progression, abilities, and even appearance.
Purchasing buildings was just touched on in Vice City. Now, it has a much higher importance. In San Andreas the idea of building your criminal empire has been taken a lot further, for example in Las Venturra you can buy, build, and run your own casino. Every part of the San Andreas society will be precise - from the rich residents to the ones living in suburban areas to the maniacs in the countryside. San Andreas will push the envelope on feeling more like a living, breathing world than its predecessors were.
The game is not about gangbanging. There will be a rap station, but as always there will be a variety of other types of music. No details on the radio stations has been released.
Rockstar has implemented things the hardcore fans of GTA III and Vice City. San Andreas will have some characters from past games making reappearances or being mentioned. There will be plenty of fun things to catch if you followed the stories of the previous games.
The AI has been improved. NPCs now react to you more intelligently with their new "brains." For example, before you could kill someone in the middle of the street in broad daylight and have no one notice. This won’t be the case in San Andreas. NPC intelligence now has a need for hour long recording sessions, which was only ten minutes in Vice City. San Andreas will have plenty of well known and some excellent unknown voice acting talents.
With the new AI comes dynamic difficulty. This means based on your performance missions will be made to suit your skill level. This will allow more players to be able to play the game to the end. You will also be able to recruit gang members to aid you during missions, and one use for them is a four person drive-by. You can run your gang, but you won’t be checking on inventory or anything like that. You will run it in a way where you are kept in the story, through phone calls and speaking to people. In Vice City and GTA III you were either on a mission or you weren’t, and the story didn’t feel like it progress outside the missions. Well now the game changes all the time. While you aren’t on a mission, you can things that reflect your position in the storyline. You can take up side missions where you can learn a skill you need for a mission.
Money has a greater use than it did in Vice City. Outside missions you can rob homes to earn some cash. However, house robbing is nothing like carjacking. It will take a lot of skill and planning to pull it off.
As you progress in the story, you can open up new things to do outside missions, which are still tied into the story. In Las Venturra you can gamble your money in your casino. The way things unlock are more complex now. There are basic tutorials at the start of the game, and then on each mission you can learn a skill. So in every mission you will be doing something new, and the game will stay fresh and challenging throughout the story.
Your character also changes depending on what you do. There are plenty of restaurants around San Andreas and you have to eat to stay healthy and retain your stamina. If you eat fast food often and don’t go to the gym, your character becomes fat, and this changes the game. Pedestrians call you a fat bastard, your running speed and strength are low, and your character’s physics change. Being fat makes missions more difficult or in some cases not possible. To fix being fat, you can go to gyms to work out. Working out gives you strength and more speed, and your character model looks fit. Rockstar wants to make you feel like you have complete control over the story and over your character, and this example of his weight is just the tip of the iceberg.
The targeting and camera systems are being overhauled. While no details have been released, Rockstar made references to features in Manhunt, and promises that the targeting will be really fun this time.
All new animations have been designed. Hand-to-hand combat will be more improved to include more variety in stances, attacks, and control over the fighting. There will be new styles of carjacking. Swimming is now included in the game. Rockstar has put in a lot of new weapons with more variety, and also focused on revamping old ones to feel more unique. Your character can dual wield pistols and possibly other weapons.
The vehicle physics engine is being changed to improve car handling and open up the possibility of new types of transportation. Vice City ranged from a moped to a plane, and the range in SA is much bigger at both ends this time. You can even ride a bicycle in San Andreas and you will have to press buttons to pedal it.
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Post by The Jacket on May 28, 2004 1:11:03 GMT -5
Aaaarggh, Shig. I've promised myself that I would stay away from the media on this game - but you're tempting me.
*Back*
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Xnay
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Post by Xnay on Jun 5, 2004 20:35:55 GMT -5
x eleventy billion I like the setting for the game. I'd love to be the one picking the music for this game. Solution: Xbox Custom Soundtracks. Heh. Oh...and BOOYA for San Andreas.
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Knight
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Post by Knight on Jun 11, 2004 8:50:44 GMT -5
you can finally learn to swim....?
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The Omen
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Post by The Omen on Jun 11, 2004 9:23:43 GMT -5
Solution: Xbox Custom Soundtracks. Heh. Oh...and BOOYA for San Andreas. GameSpot said: ONLY FOR THE PS2. ;D And for the swim thing... FINALLY.
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Zheil
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Post by Zheil on Jun 11, 2004 10:30:12 GMT -5
GameSpot said: ONLY FOR THE PS2. ;D Ahh, they always say that, because sooner or later, that game is going to find it's way onto the XBox. But until then, I guess the PS2 owners/GTA fans get to enjoy it first... ^_^
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Knight
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Post by Knight on Jun 11, 2004 11:49:35 GMT -5
About time criminals should swim. I'll laugh they put sharks in, they'll piss us off.
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The Omen
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Post by The Omen on Jun 17, 2004 18:33:56 GMT -5
Knight: I wouldn't be surprised. San Andreas will definetly be extremely realistic and full of surprises.
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