Who discovered America?!

[NunoLac]

Hey...I saw that in a doc on TV...if you have something against it...go talk with them...and I really believe...there are other proves like some statues...and let not forget the Mummies found in Peru (I think it was Peru, not sure) if I’m not wrong they used the same technique of the Egyptians

[Busterman Zero]

Jeez, Rolin. Don't be so close minded.

[NunoLac]

Well, there is so much of history that we don't know and hardly we will know and one of them it's the first people to discover America or The old continent (Europe)or Asia. Man i could say that it was the first Human that after a long trip from Africa have discovered Europe. Then they settled in Europe and the first civilization in Europe was created, but is it true?

[TranceRolin]

Jeez, Rolin. Don't be so close minded.

Ya know wha- Aww, nuts. You just blew my entire arguement away.

Any chance I had, WHOA! There it went.

My arguement . . . Now gone . . . Blown away to nuts.

[Voltaire]

There's an interesting topic I read about in an archeology magazine. Some of you might know about the Olmec, a Central American tribe that preceeded the Mayans and Aztecs. The Olmec carved massive stone heads out of a black stone called obsidian.

Some of these stone heads (or something similar) to them was found in an old Phoenician shipwreck. (The Phoenicians were a race of early seafarers, known for their alphabet. It used sounds represented by letters, where 'phoentics' comes from.)

Some people even think the Phoenicians had a colony in the Americans.

Also, in various Egyptian tombs, tobacco, a drug from solely America, was found in mummies.

Despite 'similarities,' the Mayan and Egyptian pyramids are built thousands of years apart. The Mayan/Aztec ones were built around 500 AD-1473 AD. The Egyptians were built 2000 BC-1000 BC (just a rough estimate).

Even if some Egyptians did cross the Atlantic, they would probably not have to wait a few hundred years for any pyramids to be constructed.

The uses of both pyramids were also different. The American ones were used as temples, while the Egyptians were used as tombs.

As for the Chinese emporer, I believe they got that theory by finding circular stones in California. Those circular stones were used on ancient Chinese ships as anchors, but that's all I've heard about it.

[TranceRolin]

A renaissance thinker speaking on behalf of ancient history. I love this place. ;D

[Vadon]

Ummm well most of this I just picked up. Leif ericson was not the discoverer of America. He found Iceland. or was it green land?

And as for the FIRST to come in was in the Ice Age. The world was freezing up so the water level dropped. there was now a straight in between russia and america. so some cavemen come in and travled south and so forh and settled the americas.

[TranceRolin]

1) We're talking about the more advanced civilizations discovering the previously unknown continent to their world.

2) Leif Ericson meant to go to Greenland but f**ked up big time and landed at NewFoundLand. Iceland was already known about, and Greenland was already settled, cause duh, he was tryin' to get there.

Or some such bullnuts. I don't feel like delving deeper into the recesses of my memory that cover 2nd grade's history lessons.

[Vadon]

he he sorry I was reaching into little things teachers brought up for stupid non-important to the lesson stuff . (pity I left my history book at school today otherwise i'd get my russia facts straight

[NunoLac]

Voltaire said:

There's an interesting topic I read about in an archeology magazine. Some of you might know about the Olmec, a Central American tribe that preceeded the Mayans and Aztecs. The Olmec carved massive stone heads out of a black stone called obsidian.

Some of these stone heads (or something similar) to them was found in an old Phoenician shipwreck. (The Phoenicians were a race of early seafarers, known for their alphabet. It used sounds represented by letters, where 'phoentics' comes from.)

Some people even think the Phoenicians had a colony in the Americans.

Also, in various Egyptian tombs, tobacco, a drug from solely America, was found in mummies.

Despite 'similarities,' the Mayan and Egyptian pyramids are built thousands of years apart. The Mayan/Aztec ones were built around 500 AD-1473 AD. The Egyptians were built 2000 BC-1000 BC (just a rough estimate).

Even if some Egyptians did cross the Atlantic, they would probably not have to wait a few hundred years for any pyramids to be constructed.

The uses of both pyramids were also different. The American ones were used as temples, while the Egyptians were used as tombs.

As for the Chinese emporer, I believe they got that theory by finding circular stones in California. Those circular stones were used on ancient Chinese ships as anchors, but that's all I've heard about it.

Ah...tell me the egipt piramids where made first...right?
The first...and i recap, the first piramids of egipst are simply equal to the Mayans or Aztecs Piramids. There are proves about the existence of the Egyptians in the American Lands

[TranceRolin]

Erm . . . No. The original Egyptian pyramids were step pyramids, true, but they were eliminated for a reason; The Egyptians could never get em' right, as opposed to oh, say, the Babylonians, Aztecs, Incas, Mayas, and their predecessors.

Give it up man . . . lol

[Voltaire]

Here's something I read a while ago. An Irish monk was supposed to have crossed the Atlantic in a small boat, but this is merely a folk legend.

Must be that Irish stock...

[TranceRolin]

I say he got drunk then sailed across a lake on a goat, and you may quote me on that.

[Voltaire]

Wouldn't surprise me if that was the case...

Anyway, back on topic. The Phoenicians could've had a trading outpost in the Americas. (As with the black, obsidian Olmec stone heads found in the Meditarreanian sea.)

I find it far more likely the Phoenicians came over than the Egyptians. The Egyptians rarely, if ever, left the Meditarreanian.

Keep in mind the pyramids of American and Egypt are different in both structure and use. The American ones were mainly step pyramids, and used as temples.

The Egyptian ones couldn't get the step ones right, so they used 'pure pyramids.' The Egyptians didn't use their pyramids as temples. They used them as burial sights for royalty.

While they may have similar sizes, keep in mind just because they have similar sizes, they are not totally related. It would be like saying the US built the Soviet MiG fighter because it was an airplane, and airplanes were first developed in the US.

Here's a bit of trivia on the designers of some impressive American pyramids: the Mayan Doomsday date is December 21, 2012. I'll be waiting...

[TranceRolin]

Well they were wiped out in 712AD or so, so their calculations were wrong XD