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Post by Shiguru Wazzat on Jun 13, 2003 14:17:57 GMT -5
On signing into MSN, an old friend of mine who goes by the name 'Axarle' sent me an IM about a website. I asked him what was on it, and he said it was a petition to close down a sick website, and to find out more I should just go on the link. So, I did, and I was greeted with a message telling me about a horrible website called 'God Hates f*gs'. Now, it isn't just about that God hates gay people, it has lots of horrible things on it, such as a picture of a person with a sign raised above their head saying 'Thank God For September 11th'. Here is the website with the petition to shut the website down: www.geocities.com/daysleepers_kiss_the_rain/godhatesf*gsAnd here is the original website.. but don't go there if you are offended easily (although the really offensive material can only be found if you dig around a lot): http://www.godhatesf*gs.comSo, what do you think about this website and homosexuality?
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Post by Atolmazel on Jun 13, 2003 14:28:07 GMT -5
Meh. Freedom of expression no matter how extreme in my opinion.
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Post by The Jacket on Jun 13, 2003 14:31:26 GMT -5
I've heard of this site before, never been there.
While I agree that homosexuality is a sin and wrong, I
Holy Lord. Don't stay on this ( http://www.godhatesf*gs.com/main/whipplememorial.html ) page too long with your speakers at full blast..
Back to what I was saying: I think their methods and language is a bit extreme and there are much better ways of going about this.
Why I will not sign it 1) It's to support a cause I am against. 2) First ammendment. If this site could be closed down then so could I-Mockery and many other websites. That's not going to happen. Why? Freedom of Expression.
Don't worry, I'm sure the ACLU will be all over this as soon as their done defending the Man-Boy Love Association, Pedophilia, and Kiddie Porn.
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Post by The~Inquisitor on Jun 13, 2003 15:14:01 GMT -5
The site was probably just made as a joke site, if you do not want to see things on it, do not visit the site. I do not see any point in wasting someones time by having their sites closed down. -_- It's not their fault Sept 11th happened afterall.
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Post by Magi on Jun 14, 2003 0:22:54 GMT -5
A joke? Inq, uhh, this material if it is a... "joke" is a very sick one indeed. It is downright the most degrading thing I have ever seen. I had a friend who was arrogant like these fools, and even he wasn't THIS extreme.
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Post by SleepyTemplar on Jun 14, 2003 3:10:04 GMT -5
Well, the Christian Gallery is worse (Don't say I didn't warn you if you go. Hope you didn't eat or are eating whilst going...) than GHFs, but I was already quite familar with this stuff.
Yes, I think it's garbage. Yes, I would love to know such filth didn't exist. However, as I am not one for censorship, I wouldn't sign such a petition.
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Post by The Jacket on Jun 14, 2003 3:34:44 GMT -5
God.. I've seen pictures of abortion before, but those are probably the worst. It's extremely sad. I believe I read something on there of a woman having an abortion and later seeing her baby in a jar.
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Post by The~Inquisitor on Jun 14, 2003 4:07:50 GMT -5
What I'm saying is, why should you care about someone elses site? You do not HAVE to visit it.
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Post by celticshiva on Jun 14, 2003 9:50:52 GMT -5
This site has been around for several years. I'd say at least 7. If there wasn't enough reason to shut it down within those 7 years its probably not going to happen.
Even though I AM gay, and this site is an attack on me, I'm not going to sign the petition because I do believe in freedom of expression. The site in and of itself represents no criminal activity, and unless they start putting out a 'hit list' of some sort, they are entitled to their free speech.
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Post by Gimdin7 on Jun 14, 2003 10:25:39 GMT -5
What everyone else said. Freedom of speech and stuff.
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Post by Busterman Zero on Jun 14, 2003 10:52:48 GMT -5
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Post by Rajal Tikana on Jun 14, 2003 11:02:48 GMT -5
...The site disgusts me so... but yea...this is what happens when theres freedom of speech. Its nice to have it...but things like this are to appear on the internet and so forth because of this privilage we are given in democracy.
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Post by UltimateMaxim on Jun 14, 2003 11:06:49 GMT -5
Indeed, freedom of speech doesn't mean you can just say whatever you want off the top of your head at the expense of others, especially when it is sick and vulgar as this site. It means you are allowed to speak out, like if the crime rate in an area was high, or like when womans wanted to be able to vote(people in the old days weren't allowed to speak out, they were thrown in prison for doing so). Tell people about your beliefs is part of this as well. Not talking trash about other people's beliefs and such. You can say what you want about my post, but you know I'm right. Our fore fathers didn't have this in mind when they made freedom of speech. And by the way, God does not hate gay people. He just doesn't like what they're doing. Put it this way, "God hates sin, not the sinner." So those people are not only sick and vulgar, but are also messed up on what God loves and hates.
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Post by Magi on Jun 14, 2003 12:16:01 GMT -5
Meh. Freedom of expression no matter how extreme in my opinion. That's not called freedom is speech, that's called say whatever the f**king hell I want and abuse my constitutional rights to do so. It's called I have social and mental issues and can't take the stress of real life so I blame other people for my own faults. These people make me sick. They abuse their constitutional rights. The consequence for that should be capital punishment. Free speech, right?
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Post by Matkau on Jun 14, 2003 12:23:27 GMT -5
You're looking at it the wrong way. It's not so much they're absuing their rights, as they are employing them. I haven't visitied the site, but what I can gather is that it's basically an anti-homosexual site. Now, this site delivers a homophobic message, in a very vulgar package. Well, several Christian websites across the world denounce homosexuality as a sin in every possible respect, but they are not under attack. Basically, what Im saying is that this site is just exercising their American rights, just as nay other website would. Just in a very vulgar presentaion.
Oh, and don't get me wrong. I am completely against homophobia in every possible way, and I find the actions of this website and those affiliated with it utterly disgusting
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