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Post by Sanovarak on May 7, 2003 9:50:09 GMT -5
Do you think that we, the mankind: are able to live in another planet about 5000 years later?
I think we are maybe. Because American Scientists has said we are able to live in Mars sometime. So what do you guys think?
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Post by Kuja on May 7, 2003 13:16:43 GMT -5
Of course we will be able to. I mean, there would be all sorts of difficulties involved before being able to establish colonies but afterwards problems would increase dramatically. Problems with resources would be first. If oxygen/water/food wasnt delivered to planets that were needing them then citizens would die. But then again, I think that it may actually be possible to 'create' atmospheres for people to live without deliveries of resources. This would obviously make it easier but then again, using this method it could take ages for the planet to become habitable.
Then of course there is the possibility that we will need to. With pollution and global warming and the complete depletion of natural resources all too possible, I thnk it will only be a matter of time before we need to,or become extinct.
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Post by Chickensoupcheese on May 7, 2003 15:32:31 GMT -5
I would think it highly possible, just not in our lifetimes . For the proposed task, quite a high degree of capability in space-transport would be required, and at the moment, it doesn't seem as if we are up to it. By altering this planet for the worst, we could perhaps apply a similiar sort of theory to planets that at the moment are unsuitable for us to live on, but instead do the opposite: altering it for the best. Technically it would make sense, I dunno whether it'd be as easy to put into practice.
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Post by Maxy on May 7, 2003 16:56:07 GMT -5
Colonising another planet is definitely possible. There is one tiny problem though, that the nearest habitable star system is a long, long way away. It would take many many years to get there even at the speed of light. So that leaves just planets in the solar system (e.g. Mars), which would be fairly easy to do within 5000 years. The only question is, is there a point to it? Why colonise Mars, spending unrenewable resources upon such a small and insignificant planet? Only if there is not more room on Earth would Mars be necessary. Sure it will probably has some human life living on it, perhaps in our life-times, for research purposes, but that isn't really the same as mankind living there. The only viable option for colonisation is a planet far from our own, rich in resources, which requires no human input to make it suitable for human life. To do so would require some sort of 'cheat' around the speed of light (like Star Trek's warp engines). 5000 years is a long time, but I don't think we're so far away that it is impossible.
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Post by SupraS900 on May 7, 2003 17:26:09 GMT -5
i dont know about you guys but i wouldn't like to be stuck in a bubble all day........ it would get soooooooooooooo boring!
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Post by Busterman Zero on May 7, 2003 21:10:22 GMT -5
Well, Mars does have a couple of things going for it:
1. Rumored water in crust 2. Possible metals as well
Correct me if I'm worng, because I probably am, but isn't the reason because Mars has red sand have something to do with iron rusting?
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Post by Laralon the Mad Looter on May 7, 2003 21:24:42 GMT -5
...Um, yeah. The thing is that we'd probably be able to travel, future or no, if the astronauts were kept in some sort of stasis. Even if we could travel at the speed of light, going to the next inhabitable planet is going to take one hell of a lot of years (more years than the average human lives, so HA). And then there are a few 6_9ish issues such as are there already creatures/people living on the planet in question? If so, are they hostile? Are they too stupid to realize that the "k00li3z" thingie that they stole from the "invaders" is a NUCLEAR BOMB? ARE THEY CANNIBALS? ARE THEY ABOUT TO DESTROY THE PLANET? HUH? HUH? HUH? Went too far. Whoops. Personally, I have no desire to see anyone or anything move its ass to another planet, especially if that planet is inhabited by green-skinned cannibals who are about to destroy each other. I'm perfectly happy here on Planet Earth, thank you. It'll most likely be destroyed many centuries after my lifetime.
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Post by Maxy on May 9, 2003 11:45:18 GMT -5
Mars is red because of iron, yes. Iron is not a resource we need. Iron is plentiful on earth. Much cheaper to extract here. There isn't much water on Mars, it has polar ice-caps but no-where near as much water as the earth. It doesn't have anything we need or want, the only reason it would be colonised is as a practice run for future colonisations.
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Post by The Jacket on May 9, 2003 21:23:11 GMT -5
I'm going to disreguard the posts before me and just say "No." I'm against short postsbut that's the only thing I can think of.
Reclarification: No.
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Post by devilmaycare150 on May 9, 2003 21:33:02 GMT -5
...Well, why not..?
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Post by Sanovarak on May 10, 2003 10:48:58 GMT -5
Mars has signs of water, which has lot of air making chemicals. Mars can possible be our next planet. After centuries.
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Post by OldSkoolRPGer on May 12, 2003 4:13:21 GMT -5
Mars will be inhabitable in our lifetimes, by a system of air-tight bubble domes. The actual terra-forming process will take much less than 5,000 years, with human interference.
Phase 1: Valuable element deposits discoved.
Phase 2: Factories set up, fumes from factories start Global warming process.
Phase 3: Atmosphere begins to form from chemicals locked in the ice caps, and from certain chemicals in the fumes.
Phase 4: Rain begins and oceans and rivers are formed.
Phase 5: Crops and other plants re-engineered to thrive in iron rich soils.
Phase 6: Introduce animals.
That is the basic process involved to make Mars habitable. We are lucky that most of the chemicals we need to create an atmosphere are on Mars, and the ones that are not there are easily produced. In order to make Mars able to sustain life, Global Warming must be introduced, which is one of the reasons for the factories. This could be done quite easily from a Martian Base.
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Post by celticshiva on May 18, 2003 14:42:28 GMT -5
Problems with resources would be first. If oxygen/water/food wasnt delivered to planets that were needing them then citizens would die. Not really, not if the colony was designed to be self-sufficient. Water is recyclable. If human and animal waste is properly treated, the water supply would last indefinatly. Water is not really 'created', the water we have now is more or less the same water that existed around the time of the dinosaurs. If there are enough plants, a colony would have no problem with food or oxygen. The same plants used to provide food can turn Carbon Dioxide into Oxygen the same way our breathing turns Oxygen into Carbon Dioxide. I'm also thinking more along the lines of bubble dome colonies than full scale terraforming that OldSkool is suggesting.
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Post by OldSkoolRPGer on May 23, 2003 23:33:36 GMT -5
Well, of course we would live in bubble colonies while the terraforming was going on, but we cannot live in bubble colonies unless we have somewhat large rooms. It is a fact that astronauts start to go crazy after awhile, because of their small quarters(saw it on the Science channel). So naturally, the actual planet would be a much better habitat. It would also take alot of building materials and money to maintain and expand as the colony aged and the population grew.
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Post by UltimateMaxim on May 26, 2003 17:37:41 GMT -5
Well, of course we would live in bubble colonies while the terraforming was going on, but we cannot live in bubble colonies unless we have somewhat large rooms. It is a fact that astronauts start to go crazy after awhile, because of their small quarters(saw it on the Science channel). So naturally, the actual planet would be a much better habitat. It would also take alot of building materials and money to maintain and expand as the colony aged and the population grew. That's why it would impossibe to do this. One word: MONEY By the time we get around to colonising Mars, we'll all be too broke to live there anyways. The government is constantly borrowing money for everything they need.
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