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Post by Phantom Janus on Mar 23, 2003 13:19:20 GMT -5
Now they're forcing ads infront of you even with the Pop-Up Stopper on..........I dunno how...but I'm going to find a way to kill that too, if at all possible.
You should have a right to ignore pop-ups. They waste time and money, as the same is with Spam.
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Post by TheNeanderthal on Mar 23, 2003 13:23:22 GMT -5
download.com is the site where you can find the "Opera" browser. It has an anti-popup system. Besides, it's great.
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Post by The Jacket on Mar 23, 2003 13:24:03 GMT -5
Opera are teh coolies.
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Post by Magi on Mar 23, 2003 13:27:10 GMT -5
I had to delete about 6 friggin adware programs that increased the popups I got on the net. d**n it was annoying.
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Post by The Jacket on Mar 23, 2003 13:30:53 GMT -5
Although I use Opera, there are times I have to resort to IE, which does not have a Pop-Up Stopper. But I have this thing called PanicWare, and it's never allowed a Pop-Up Window by.
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Post by Thores on Mar 23, 2003 13:35:29 GMT -5
Argh, I hate it when people use the word "gay" as a derogatory term. It's so insensitive and degrading. -_-'
Anyway, popups aren't THAT bad. I've gotten used to them.
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Post by The Jacket on Mar 23, 2003 13:40:13 GMT -5
One: I see "gay" as derogatory, but when I call something gay, I'm not calling it homosexual. Two: I hate pop-ups. Nothing annoys me like trying to type something and seeing suddenly that Version 7.0 of *insert desparate corporation here* has been relased.
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Post by PaulC on Mar 23, 2003 13:53:28 GMT -5
One: I see "gay" as derogatory, but when I call something gay, I'm not calling it homosexual. That's not really the point. It's the fact that you're using a word that means 'homosexual' as an insult. I'm so used to automatically closing pop-ups by now that sometimes I don't even remember they're there. It's a minor irritation at worst.
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Post by Chickensoupcheese on Mar 23, 2003 13:57:01 GMT -5
I see what you mean, and yes, Opera is what I'm using at the moment to rid of those norty pop-up ads, but must you use "gay" to describe them. I suppose you could be referring to the happy, non-homosexual meaning of the word, but then again that wouldn't make sense, due to the word being used negatively. Unless the word is used in either of its "correct" meanings, I'm considering it to be an explicit profanity. Not that it is of course, just that it should not be used in such a context.
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Post by The Jacket on Mar 23, 2003 18:04:12 GMT -5
My Lord....you must be out of your mind to think we're actually putting down people who're gay when we say "That's gay." When I call something dumb, I'm not putting down someone who can't speak and "dumb" is a universal word for the use of "You're dumb." or "That's dumb." If we're going to stop saying gay like that, we're going to have to stop saying: dumb, retarded, insane, looney, crazy, etc. This is nearly as bad as the black people at my school who become enraged when: Someone talks about slavery, someone is proud of their southern, white heritage, someone discomforts them (God forbid that a black person be seated in the smoking section when they ask for first available!!! HATE CRIME!!!), someone where's a Dixie Outfitters shirt, someone supports the return of the Old South emblem to the Georgia state flag. (And no, not that little sissy one at the bottom.) Ah crud. I forgot the rest of my rant.... I've never been farther north than Washington D.C. on a trip so I don't know if it is like that in the north, but in this area - it's enough to make you want to vomit. Maybe I'll remember the rest of my post later..
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Post by PaulC on Mar 23, 2003 18:20:54 GMT -5
My Lord....you must be out of your mind to think we're actually putting down people who're gay when we say "That's gay." Whether you realize it or not, you are. Do you think a homosexual would feel comfortable hearing that word slung around as an insult? By using the term in a derogatory way, you're insulting what it represents. How would you feel if it was "christian" being used as an insulting word? No doubt you'd take offense and give us a nice lecture. When I call something dumb, I'm not putting down someone who can't speak and "dumb" is a universal word for the use of "You're dumb." or "That's dumb." Gay is accepted as meaning "homosexual". Over time, the meaning of the word dumb has changed to have a seperate meaning of "idiotic" without any connection to the medical condition. This seperation has not taken place for the word "gay". If we're going to stop saying gay like that, we're going to have to stop saying: dumb, retarded, insane, looney, crazy, etc. Describing something that doesn't make sense as "crazy" fits a little better than calling it "gay". Those words had negative connotations from the beginning (with the exception of retarded, which I think can also be offensive). Using them negatively makes sense; using a term like "gay", which has no connotation originally, negatively by extension insults homosexuals. This is nearly as bad as the black people at my school who become enraged when: Someone talks about slavery, someone is proud of their southern, white heritage, someone discomforts them (God forbid that a black person be seated in the smoking section when they ask for first available!!! HATE CRIME!!!), someone where's a Dixie Outfitters shirt, someone supports the return of the Old South emblem to the Georgia state flag. (And no, not that little sissy one at the bottom.) Not sure what you mean. You support slapping the emblem of a country that represents racist ideals for the sheet-wearing morons of this country in their faces, and you think they're going to like it? It may be slight over-reacting on their part but I understand their feelings completely.
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Post by The Jacket on Mar 23, 2003 18:54:12 GMT -5
Whether you realize it or not, you are. Do you think a homosexual would feel comfortable hearing that word slung around as an insult? By using the term in a derogatory way, you're insulting what it represents. How would you feel if it was "christian" being used as an insulting word? No doubt you'd take offense and give us a nice lecture. Actually, I know homosexuals who hear it, are not offended by it, and use it themselves. I know of NO homosexuals that are offended by the common derogatory use of the word. The example of using the word Christian, I'm afraid is a poor one. If someone was calling something Christian and saying that something bad could be related to Christianity, yes I would be upset, as I would expect a gay person to become upset if someone was relating something (else) bad to homosexuality. But if they just said "That's Christian." And they were making no connection between something bad and what I believe - so be it. So, if someone says gay and is making no connection with it to something (else) bad - there is no problem. Gay is accepted as meaning "homosexual". Over time, the meaning of the word dumb has changed to have a seperate meaning of "idiotic" without any connection to the medical condition. This seperation has not taken place for the word "gay". Not so. This change has in fact begun to/already taken place. Obviously, when we say "gay" we are not regarding what it's meaning is. Just as when we say dumb. You've no ground to call one who uses gay in that manner insensitive unless they are making a connection to try and insult gays by relating something (else) bad to homosexuality. Describing something that doesn't make sense as "crazy" fits a little better than calling it "gay". Those words had negative connotations from the beginning (with the exception of retarded, which I think can also be offensive). Using them negatively makes sense; using a term like "gay", which has no connotation originally, negatively by extension insults homosexuals. Actually, gay DOES have a negative connotation. Last time I checked my Bible, homosexuality was wrong. Insanity isn't wrong. Neither is being dumb, deaf or crazy. Don't you look at me like that. Whether you believe that Bible or not, it's what your nation was founded on hoss. And even aside from the Bible, back in the day gay had a negative connotations. Normally, I would rant about the infestation of liberal, "mandy-pandy, girl thingy-footin', ear-ticklin', back-scratchin', compromisin'," Christians in America, but I think I'll not. Not sure what you mean. You support slapping the emblem of a country that represents racist ideals for the sheet-wearing morons of this country in their faces, and you think they're going to like it? It may be slight over-reacting on their part but I understand their feelings completely. Now you've crossed the line into ignorant generalizations. The Nazi emblem (The broken Cross) was created for an uprising of facists in Germany and can be associated with that group, and a bad thing. Unlike the Nazi emblem, the Old South emblem did NOT stand for slavery, segregation or racism. It a variation of the traditional "Stars and Bars" theme. It is ignorance that causes people to associate the flag with the Klan, Segregation, Slavery, and Racism.
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Post by Gimdin7 on Mar 23, 2003 19:12:24 GMT -5
The word gay in the context we're talking about is a colloquial term, and has negative connotation towards an idea or thing we find unfitting to our likings. Whether homosexuals (or anyone else for that matter) take the usage to be hurtful or not is irrelevant, because that is the way they choose to view the meaning of the word. Definitions are subjective both to those who hear the word, and those who speak the word, and so both parties must come to a common agreement. However, since no one who has posted yet is homosexual (that I know of) the point is moot. I think we would have to have a gay man or womans persepctive on the matter to come to an agreement.
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Post by The Jacket on Mar 23, 2003 19:17:40 GMT -5
This is not an insult, but I really couldn't understand the bulk of your post. :-\
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Post by Gimdin7 on Mar 23, 2003 19:20:45 GMT -5
The point: Neither side is right or wrong because we don't have Gay Mans or Womans perspective to base the word usage on.
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