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Post by Forbidden on Sept 27, 2003 9:17:55 GMT -5
Well, since the RPG Analysis (sp?) forum is gone, I'd have to ask this question here.
Who's Necron? From the beggining 'till the end, you just had to fight Kuja and save the world etc., so what's up with Necron? Why is HE the final boss?
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Post by Kamau on Sept 27, 2003 12:03:17 GMT -5
Haha bloody Necron. It's been a while but this is the best I can remember...
It was dumb and had nothing to do with the rest of the game.
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Post by The~Inquisitor on Sept 27, 2003 12:05:04 GMT -5
Didn't he create the crystals or something? I can't remember what purpose the crystals had though.
Another question: What significance did the crystals have?
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Post by Shiguru Wazzat on Sept 27, 2003 13:01:44 GMT -5
Well, since the RPG Analysis (sp?) forum is gone There was an RPG Analysis section? And necron, I have no clue what the hell he has to do with the storyline. I'm pretty sure it ties in with that world you go to... It's been a while since I played FF9, I can't remember too well.
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Post by Lankyrie on Sept 27, 2003 13:18:08 GMT -5
There was an RPG Analysis section? Yes, it was same category with Debates. You remember Kuja destroyed Crystal. Necron was searching world of zero. So Necron appears, and Zidane have to fight with it.
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Post by ObviousDelirium on Sept 27, 2003 13:49:17 GMT -5
There must be something about that in the japanese one(you know,some things that differ from the original to the translation).
SPOILERS(highlight to read): The crystal represented life and death,without the crystal,there can't be life,Necron said he was life and death I believe(not sure,it's been long since I've played),he wanted to bring the world back to zero because of Kuja's actions which proved his point(which he was then proved wrong by the fighting between Zidane and the others and him,so he left the world like it was). Like I stated however,I'm not sure about that cause I haven't played since a while,I'll need to play through it again to see.
END SPOILERS.
Or maybe they just needed a second form for the last boss but didn't find any reasons to transform Kuja so they put Necron in there like that.
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Post by TranceRolin on Sept 27, 2003 14:20:35 GMT -5
The crystal powered existance. Without the crystal nothing could exist, or so said Kuja. (Remember, he mentions the world ending because of the crystal being gone during his whole evil speech before he destroys it.) I'm guessing that Necron was the power behind the crystal, and that Necron didn't want to fuel existance anymore so he was imprisoned inside the crystal. So after defeating Necron I'm guessing that he went back to the crystal, and became a new one (Kuja shattered the old one, remember?) . . . But this part is just pure speculation.
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Post by The Patryn on Sept 28, 2003 21:49:23 GMT -5
Necron, was the physical embodiment of life and death. In the english version, his presence as we all know, didn't make much sense. Perhaps, as FireKnight said, they missed something vital in the translation. Who knows? I don't think what FK said though, about how Necron wanted to bring the world back to nothingness was entirely true. It's been a while since I played, but as far as I remember, he believed that the world needed to be reset, and that all life was willing itself to end. So he wasn't ending it because it's what he wanted to do, but because it was what he thought life wanted...if that makes any sense...Kind of hard for me to put what I mean into words on this one...
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Post by devilmaycare150 on Sept 29, 2003 14:30:48 GMT -5
..Patryn pretty much puts the nail on the head, although, it doesn't excuse the fact that he was a pathetic excuse by Square to try to be clever, when really, it was just plain stupid. Perhaps if they had hinted at Necron's existence..maybe they did..I don't know..
Basically, Necron was the epitome of the suffering of the people on Zidane's world (Gaia); as noted by all the moanings and such. It's my personal belief that he's an ancient creature; perhaps as ancient as the crystal itself, or near that. Being an omnipotent being seems to go along with you going crazy; but Necron didn't go crazy, he's quite sane, he just saw so many people suffering, that he came to the conclusion that it would be a heck of a lot better to destroy the crystal; the epitome of all life, what keeps everything on Zidane's world alive, to stop the suffering. In a world of nothingness, there is no pain and no sorrow. But he had to make certain about all of this..I think he waited until Zidane and his team came around to go with his plan because he was probably sealed in Memoria (..is that the name of the last dungeon?) and the sorrowful memories of the hero's and Kuja's angst probably awakened him; an even more daring theory I've heard is that Necron was in fact created by the hero's and his teams angst and suffering..and that there is a part of all of them that wishes for this "zero" existence he speaks of. There's nothing that go's directly against that; there is a Necron in all of us I suppose. But when Kuja was willing to end his life along with the rest of the world, that proved to Necron that this was the way to go..of course, Zidane realized that a world with no pain, is also a world with no happiness; there is no in between, no Eden. So with his renewed powress, and the help of his teammates he rose up and beat Necron..
*Looks up..*
Where did that come from..?
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Post by The Patryn on Sept 29, 2003 18:20:39 GMT -5
On a side note, I know all the sites say that there are two endings, a happy, and sad one, but I've only seen one, even though I didn't get Cina's hammer in one file. Can you guys describe the ending you got? Maybe they're just so minutely different I didn't notice...
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Post by devilmaycare150 on Sept 29, 2003 20:29:08 GMT -5
..There's really..not that much of a difference..an extra scene in the play that happens at the end of the game. A 30 second one at that..it was such a small detail I can't really remember it..
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Post by The Patryn on Sept 29, 2003 20:30:00 GMT -5
Yeah...I got the good one first time around, and didn't see anything different when I got the bad one about a year later...
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Post by TranceRolin on Sept 29, 2003 20:34:08 GMT -5
I don't even f**king remember. In the good ending it
*SPOILER WARNING FOR LAZY f**kS THAT ARE READING THIS DESPITE THE TOPIC AND WILL AT SOME POINT COMPLAIN REGARDLESS JUST TO BE f**kTARDS*
just had the added scene of Zidane appearing in "Will you be my Canary?" and the big emotional embrace between him and Dagger/Garnet.
The unhappy ending I'm sure just removed that scene and had Marcus there instead, as per the original performance.
*END SPOILER WARNING FOR IGNORANT f**kTARDS*
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